Sorry,

I didn't think i said anything bad.  My apologies. 

I wonder if they'll be running the Mini Coupe when it comes out.

i'm wondering when will GAAdmin clean up the remaining parrot droppings on this thread ??

a waving black flag does no good with this lunatic , red flag and outta here ...

jees, one shot one kill, from 1000 meters out, with a cross wind, impressive job there GAAdmin ...

back to our regularily scheduled channel ....

Let's see if Grand Am deletes this one too...

What's wrong with pointing out that APR got caught BY GRAND AM cheating twice this season?  Once for too much fuel and once for illegal engine modifications?  That's a big frickin deal.  I'm simply quoting what Grand Am documents on this very site.  Why is APR caught cheating twice on both cars and now controlling the mods?

BMWFan1 - Dude, find a less stressfull use of your time or at least find something more current to get your stomach in a knot about. GEEZZZ
We get it.....The situation was horrible but it is old news. 
MOVE ON ALREADY.

Joe

BMWFan1- You are either A) Going to have a heart attack or B) Going to get an ulcer the size of a pineapple.  Relax.  Let it go.  This is not the first time or the last time that teams go over the line.  It happens in every sport.  Chill out.  You are really getting on people's nerves.

Joe/Alberto,

Thanks for the kind words.  Truly not trying to beat a dead horse though I can see that perspective.  Just frustrates me that a team admittedly cheats for two years and also gets caught cheating with too much fuel with VERY little consequence.  I see lots of teams out there that don't seem to have the money of APR so seeing them keep money from running illegal cars doesn't seem right.  I hope that the light shined on the subject forces them to not cheat their fellow competitors and the fans in the future.  Again, thanks for the concern to my health.  Consider it dropped (a MUCH better way to approach someone than erasing relavent messages or sarcastic insults by sportswriter).

above was posted way back in August ...
my point was to illustrate the 'grey' area involved in the rule set. There is no easy way to arrive at 'parity' among so many different MFG's in each class, each represented by front line Pro teams, some, like SpeedSource and APR for instance, who build their entire package 'in house'.
Unlike most teams who sub contract out the car build, buy their motors from say, KSE or PNA, and then prep / field their effort,  these few teams do it all, chassis, suspension, motors, everything is built and developed in house. They are expecting to win, to run up front, have the MFG assisstance, the 'resources' to do so. They are in it to win.

GA must then allow the flexibility in the rule set for these new models to be competetive,  to run up front, to win. The future of the Koni Series is riding on this flexibility. To grow the Koni Series requires new teams and MFG's to be enticed to join. No one will make the major investment of effort, time, money and their reputation to run P-5, if the rule set is restrictive in prohibiting speed or archaic in not permitting reliabilty in the drive train package. 

It's all about 'clarification', defining what's acceptable, race to race, everything is "grey", unless specifically defined in the rule set. Welcome to todays world of Pro Racing, Koni style,. can't wait for Daytona.


This post edited by sportswriter on 10-30-2009, 7:53 PM EST

Is the new APR GS Audi power-added and if so, what other models does that now open GS to that weren't allowed to run?